Lance Armstrong, love or loathe, in 2019

Discussion in 'Pro Cycling (Road and Track Racing)' started by stoatsngroats, 2 Jun 2019.

  1. stoatsngroats

    stoatsngroats Guru

    South East


    Just saw this.

    Is he a self interested person, or someone who made some big mistakes but overall is wanting to help people.

    I think the times I watched Le Tour, when he was cycling, there was something about his desire to win which made some unbelievable and exciting tv.
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  2. Bonefish Blues

    Bonefish Blues Banging donk

    52 Festive Road
    Loathe, thanks.
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  3. roadrash

    roadrash cycle chatterer

    Hes a nob ed ……. hes desire to win by cheating you mean
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  4. Crackle

    Crackle Squatter

    When I watch him my overall impression is that he still regrets he was caught and I can't get past that. There's a defiance which just won't go away. He's learned to swallow it but that's it, he's now selling the world a new story and he's good at selling stories.
  5. Smokin Joe

    Smokin Joe Legendary Member

    I loathe his actions, but there is something about him as a person I admire.

    I'd love to meet him.
  6. OP

    stoatsngroats Guru

    South East
    Yes, I get that, but that’s not the worst thing for me, because it appears that it was common, if not rife, in the peloton of those years.
    It’s more the vociferous lies for years, that he actually wasn’t doping in any way, that makes me dislike him as much as I do.
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  7. roadrash

    roadrash cycle chatterer

    I agree with you , and I feel the same for all riders who are guilty of cheating in what ever way. as crackle says I thing armstrongs only regret is being caught
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  8. cyberknight

    cyberknight As long as I breathe, I attack.

    Land of confusion
    And the way he stomped all over everyone in the process
  9. Not love,but kind of admire him...still. I think it's more the beating cancer than his 7 dodgy TdF wins. He still competes and is still a great athlete. If he hadn't taken those mickey finns he could've still won the TdF 3,4 or 5 times.

    I might even name one of my palm trees Lance!:whistle:
    Last edited: 2 Jun 2019
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  10. Supersuperleeds

    Supersuperleeds Guru

    He's a cheating nobber who shouldn't be given any air time.
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  11. otek59

    otek59 Well-Known Member

    I believe he thought he was invincible and that the rules did not apply to him, sounds like another American in a position of power
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  12. cyberknight

    cyberknight As long as I breathe, I attack.

    Land of confusion
    until he doped he was never going to be a GT contender as evidenced by his results prior to cancer, a good stage / one day er maybe but his vo2 max and haemocrit levels were nothing to write home about ( for a top althete anyway ) .Untill ferrari took him under his wing .
    Of course i admire the determination to beat cancer at the level he had and come back to any level and maybe that determination overspilled into the way he treated people but it still does not excuse the way he did .
    Read its not about the bike which was ghost written then compare notes with 7 deadly sins by david walsh
  13. Slick

    Slick Veteran

    I reckon he's served his time.
  14. Heltor Chasca

    Heltor Chasca Out-Riding the Black Dog

    And very nicely too. I think he probably cleans up quite nicely from all the subsequent attention.
  15. otek59

    otek59 Well-Known Member

    I think with hindsight maybe we just ignore him don’t give him the attention as a narcissist he craves. And turn our attention to positive aspects of the sport
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