Coronavirus outbreak

tom73

Veteran
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Yorkshire
That I don't know. I'll ask her when she gets home and come back to you on that. There's five such centres in East Lancashire where she's based, apparently. The logistics to do all that have to be sorted - consent room, pre-injection room, injection room etc.
All the details that they like to gloss over which ever way you look at this in what ever setting you're based it's one big headache.
With none of the high ups in firing line. The idea of letting unqualified/unsupervised staff near this now knowing it needs mixing is now even more a worry.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Now that pubs and most workplaces have been closed, supermarkets have hit the top of the covid charts. How much spread is due to drinkers buying their booze in supermarkets instead? https://www.itv.com/news/2020-11-19...-are-most-likely-to-be-exposed-to-coronavirus

Me? I'm still using farm shops, standalone butchers and minimarkets as much as possible. I'll cheerfully pay another few % to support locally-owned business and not to have some covidiot trying to stand in my back pocket at the checkout.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Interesting graphs from COBR. Not as many working from home as I thought, only just over a third. More mask-wearing than I thought but 1 in 9 still not washing their farking hands!


And a big drop in retail and recreation journeys since 5 Nov, but most other journey types continued at their crisis-modified levels, at least for Google's victims:
 
Seeing a lot more cases in lot worse state been on mostly all out support last week or so.
No sooner I get in Mrs 73 is out the door she was over ran with cases last time now we both are :sad:.
Why can't the government just grow a pair and be clear the idea of a 5 day max 10 people Christmas idea is pie in the sky.
On the same day the BMA spell it out what real risk we are in coming out of lock down with no plan. We got this "idea" leaking out
Christmas day is what ever day people want it be expecting everyone to play by the rules before and after so Boris can save Christmas.
Just won't happen it's not happening now we blow it big time last lockdown and we are going to do it all over again.
The idea the "vaccine lone ranger" will ride into town and save us in a matter of weeks or by spring is not helping either.
I think the 5 days of Christmas will happen. If the govt can spend £500m encouraging us indoors in to crowded spaces when we have a virus that is most prolific in crowded indoor spaces - then pretty sure they will do the same over Christmas.
 

MrGrumpy

Huge Member
Location
Fly Fifer
I don’t want it , mother is going to my sisters ( her bubble ) so I’m fine with that! Wtf would this be even suggested ? It’s only going to end badly :sad:
 

PaulB

Legendary Member
Location
Colne
All the details that they like to gloss over which ever way you look at this in what ever setting you're based it's one big headache.
With none of the high ups in firing line. The idea of letting unqualified/unsupervised staff near this now knowing it needs mixing is now even more a worry.
It's the Pfizer one. But they're all qualified. They still have to do their regular jobs and do the vaccinations as extra, that's why she needed to ensure they got paid because most of them volunteered as they wanted to contribute but of course, such dedication will be exploited, especially by these lepers currently 'in charge'.
 

tom73

Veteran
Location
Yorkshire
@PaulB Thanks for letting me know.
How many arms do they think Nurses have I wonder they already spend most days trying to be an octopus.
Let's hope they all stand up and get the right pay for all this. Someone is set to make a mint form this and it wont be the ones doing all the work. Many will be qualified which is as it should be but given the law change for this it's only a matter of time before unqualified staff are brought in as list of ones needing jabs outweighs number of qualified staff.
Have to see if Mrs 73 has had any word on this not hold out though given they are still waiting for staff testing.
 

DRM

Veteran
Location
West Yorks
@PaulB Thanks for letting me know.
How many arms do they think Nurses have I wonder they already spend most days trying to be an octopus.
Let's hope they all stand up and get the right pay for all this. Someone is set to make a mint form this and it wont be the ones doing all the work. Many will be qualified which is as it should be but given the law change for this it's only a matter of time before unqualified staff are brought in as list of ones needing jabs outweighs number of qualified staff.
Have to see if Mrs 73 has had any word on this not hold out though given they are still waiting for staff testing.
On this mornings BBC Breakfast news, they announced a pay freeze for public employees, so I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for NHS staff to be paid in line with the work put in since Covid-19 struck
 

midlife

Guru
I don't pay that much attention to what the government say about vaccines but one of the senior managers for a Trust I hold an honorary contract with has been told to be ready for the arrival of 800,000 doses imminently............
 

tom73

Veteran
Location
Yorkshire
I don't pay that much attention to what the government say about vaccines but one of the senior managers for a Trust I hold an honorary contract with has been told to be ready for the arrival of 800,000 doses imminently............
That will be the ultra cold storage the goverment have just remembered the NHS has. The plan is use hospitals to store it and send in out at a local level that way. Sounds common sense it also gives them a get out for ones wasted due to storage issues. Even if the issues are not NHS ones quite handy all round really.
 

tom73

Veteran
Location
Yorkshire
The vaccine plan leaked by the HSJ is massive and a lot of work to pull off. It’s possible if and a big if the NHS is left to get on with it. Free of any political games and Serco and co are kept well away. The idea which the governing are not being open about is that at the same time as going all this the NHS can still provide all areas of primary care services. It simply can’t and they need to admit it.
A lot of questions remain from the plan and still a lot to go wrong. One thing has gone wrong already side stepping areas of primary care Nursing is not a good start.
 

PaulB

Legendary Member
Location
Colne
The idea which the governing are not being open about is that at the same time as going all this the NHS can still provide all areas of primary care services. It simply can’t and they need to admit it.
A lot of questions remain from the plan and still a lot to go wrong. One thing has gone wrong already side stepping areas of primary care Nursing is not a good start.
That's the big problem Super-Nurse is facing (she was promoted as from yesterday). Her nurses can't leave their normal jobs to get the vaccinations done, they have to do both, which is why she was adamant this was on a paid basis and not - as appeared to be expected from them - as a volunteer thing for which they'd get a half-hearted round of applause moaned about by someone who's boyfriend was a postman and he didn't get the same appreciation.

So now they'll have to do their regular jobs (all with children - that's the area they work in) or delegate someone else to do them and then do the vaccinations before or after their regular shifts. It would help them enormously if the schools all closed down to allow them more time.
 
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